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Dilated Cardiomyopathy and Grain-Free Diets: Thoughts on the FDA Update

July 3, 2019 · Dr. Justin Shmalberg

Fatal heart disease from pet foods? This is the alarming suggestion circling the internet again following the release of more information from the FDA. It’s important to view such information in a rational context and to use the opportunity to think about your pet’s nutrition broadly.

What do we know?

Veterinary cardiologists suggested that a heart condition known as Dilated Cardiomyopathy (DCM) was occurring more commonly in Golden Retrievers and other breeds not commonly thought to be genetically predisposed (breeds in that latter category include Dobermans, Boxers, Great Danes). DCM has of course been reported in other breeds in smaller numbers, generally other medium- to large-breeds, but there was a concern that the overall number of atypical cases was higher than previously recognized. Some cardiologists suggested that many atypical dogs were fed grain-free diets. This led to interest from veterinarians, breed groups (specifically Golden Retriever owners), the public, and the FDA. The FDA has been accumulating data for months at the present time, and in the last week provided some more details than previously available.

What is DCM?

DCM is broadly a condition characterized by poor contraction of the heart muscle, which can lead to heart failure, a potentially fatal condition. Dogs may have no signs at all, nonspecific signs (poor appetite or energy level), or in advanced stages coughing due to fluid in the lungs or enlargement of the heart, fluid in the belly, severe weakness, collapse, or even death.

Is DCM always a nutritional problem?

Not usually, as the genetic predisposition is thought to be the cause in most cases. However, deficiency of taurine is known to cause a potentially reversible form of DCM (non-nutritional DCM is managed but not reversed). So what is taurine? Taurine is an amino acid made by dogs (but not cats) from other precursor amino acids, specifically methionine (an essential amino acid) which is then converted to another amino acid, cysteine. We can group these together and call them sulfur-containing amino acids (SCAA) since they, you guessed it, contain sulfur. If you give a cat a diet with little or no taurine, DCM is a real possibility. If you give a dog a diet without taurine that is low in SCAA or has SCAA that are not available (not well digested), DCM is also possible. This is what happened nearly 2 decades ago when low-protein diets without adequate or digestible SCAAs (lamb is naturally low) were fed to dogs. It occurred in cats fed diets low in natural taurine without supplementation. Now, most pet foods contain supplemental taurine for cats, and either supplemental taurine or SCAA for dogs (unless they are very high protein diets with naturally occurring amounts). It’s important to note that measuring amino acids or nutrients in general isn’t the whole story because it only tells you what theoretically can be digested, not what is actually unlocked from the food and absorbed. Basically, a number can look good but not produce real-world effects.

What is the scope of atypical DCM?

Unfortunately, this is not known. The FDA has reviewed information from 560 dogs and 14 cats between January 1, 2014 and April 30, 2019, with 119 and 5 deaths in those pets, respectively. My cardiologist colleagues tell me that some owners are not reporting their animals, especially now since the problem is more widely publicized - many probably feel it’s not worth the effort or won’t help to unlock what is happening. There is no streamlined or central reporting system for veterinary cardiologists to input their suspected cases and so the FDA is likely a lower estimate. Some of the dogs reported were in breeds with predispositions  (25 Great Danes, 15 Dobermans, 11 Boxers). Unfortunately detailed information is not always available for each dog, and so if a dog was of a predisposed breed and showed signs of reversal, we would think it more likely to not be genetic DCM which isn’t known to dramatically improve.

Not all of the cases above have been confirmed to have DCM - the FDA reported that 202 dogs (35% of total reports) and 6 cats (42.8%) had both medical records reviewed and met the DCM definition.  Of those reviewed, 59.4% had findings consistent with DCM while others were classified as non-DCM (which included those with decreased left ventricular function (which might be pre-DCM) or other heart changes which may not be related to DCM). Based on a comment below, this paragraph was edited, and I also would emphasize here as I did elsewhere that there certainly are some number of pet parents who did not report cases similar to what the FDA has collected.

It’s important to remember that the total number of atypical DCM cases in previous years also isn’t known so we have no baseline to which we can compare the current numbers. It’s still safe to say that DCM is very uncommon in dogs fed any specific pet food.

What about breed?

Golden retrievers were the most common breed identified (95 cases). This could be because they are truly over-represented or just because their owners were very active in mobilizing as a group and reporting cases. If Goldens are truly more frequently affected, then it’s possible that they have a unique genetic predisposition in some families - previous reports have found this for taurine deficiency in Goldens. There could be previously identified genetic predispositions in the other breeds on the list (like Labradors and other retrievers). Or perhaps, it’s a combination between genes, diet, the microbiome and a host of unknown factors, especially in those Goldens with normal taurine levels.

It’s important to note that almost all of the breeds reported are medium to large (as has been seen in atypical cases before). The only small breeds were Shih Tzus (5 cases) and potentially ‘unknown’ (13 cases) or maybe some mixed breed dogs (62 cases). We have no frame of reference to compare to previous years in atypical DCM breed distribution.  This would only be identified through a consortium of cardiologists working to identify all previous cases - something that is very challenging to do.

Is taurine to blame for the current cases?

Taurine levels were only available for 64% of dogs with confirmed DCM, and less than half of those had low taurine (42%). Generally speaking, it would be safe to say that low taurine was less common than a normal or high taurine across the dogs reported.

For Golden Retrievers, it’s a bit different. The FDA lists taurine results for confirmed Golden DCM cases (24 total). 79.2% had a low taurine, 16.7% normal taurine, and 4.2% high levels. In normal Golden Retrievers, 7 dogs had low taurine and 4 normal. In Goldens with other heart changes (non DCM), 13/17 had low values and 4/17 had normal values. Across the board, with or without DCM, the reported Goldens seem more likely to have low taurine. It is previously known that Goldens can have issues with taurine causing DCM on a familial basis

The type of sample submitted can influence results. It is known that taurine will yield potentially different results if run on whole blood (the blood that comes straight from the vein) or on the fluid portion of the blood (plasma) and there were differences in what type of samples submitted that could be significant. Some cardiologists are now also suggesting a new taurine reference interval just for Golden retrievers.

In cats, there’s really not enough information to make any conclusions.

Taurine was a part of treatment in many dogs that improved (in addition to diet change, medications, and other supplements like fish oil). Taurine is known to help encourage normal contraction of the heart (which is why DCM is caused with true taurine deficiency - remember that DCM is characterized by the heart not contracting well). Taurine may help even genetic DCM to some degree - this has never been really studied to my knowledge. As so many treatments were initiated at the same time, it’s nearly impossible to tell if taurine alone was helpful. Certainly taurine is not harmful but the evidence is presently inconclusive that taurine is to blame in many cases. Additional work is needed in Golden retrievers to determine relationships between DCM and taurine.

Is diet to blame at all?

There is no proven association between any dietary strategy or specific diet and DCM. The FDA is testing reported foods but has released limited information. They have stated that the macronutrients, SCAAs, and taurine are similar between tested grain-free and grain-containing foods.

There are a number of guesses, which are just that - guesses, about what could be going on IF a dietary link to these cases were proven. These include:

  • Poor availability of SCAAs and taurine in the diet, meaning they are there but not well absorbed

  • Legumes or legume proteins at high amounts providing less digestible amino acids, antinutritional factors, and soluble fiber that interacts with digestion and the bacterial flora in the gut (microbiome)

  • Poorly digestible ingredients especially those providing protein (meat meals with high bone content (ash), vegetable sources of protein). Remember that poor quality, high ash meals are less expensive than others and that for some meats that may be all that’s commonly available.

  • Processing changes to SCAAs, especially during extrusion (kibble formation)

  • Lack of testing for taurine and SCAAs (although the FDA is saying levels are similar in their testing)

  • High fiber amounts that impact the recycling of taurine in the gut (taurine is a part of bile salts found in the bile that get resorbed at different levels depending on the diet)

  • Genetic predispositions to differences in handling nutrients or in production of taurine from SCAA, such as previously identified in Golden retrievers

Unfortunately, the information about brand does nothing for nutritionists to be able to look into these potential factors. A detailed list of complaints, some of which contain specific products within brands, is found here. It will take some time to aggregate the information by specific food, and it’s not clear that will be done by the FDA.

Is there a type of food more commonly reported?

Kibble is the most common food type reported (452 reports) as compared to those feeding multiple types (24), unknown (26), and raw (9). One instance each of home-cooked, refrigerated, semi-moist, and tubbed are reported. We do know that kibble is by far the most commonly fed type of pet diet, so the data may just reflect that. However, it’s interesting that canned and fresh diets are not generally reported here (especially canned which would be second most commonly fed). This may be because there is no true association between diet or if there is, that it is not as likely to cause issues because of different ingredients or because of different cooking/processing. 

The brand list - should they always be avoided?

Every brand produces a number of foods and this is where the incidence of specific diets would be helpful. In looking through the reports of DCM, many lack complete information about the specific product being fed. Many owners were feeding multiple diets together or rotating (even between brands) which complicates the picture. Examining those brands with 50 or more reports, which are Acana, Zignature, and Taste of the Wild, I searched the reports for specific products. Remember that the data is not easy to search or manipulate in the form provided by the FDA so please interpret these findings with caution and apologies in advance for inaccuracies identified. This said, for Zignature, the kangaroo product appeared 43 times (when reported as the only diet fed), trout 6 times, and turkey 4. Other products were below that. For Acana, lamb appeared 19 times, followed by pork 5, duck 5, and a combination of only duck and pork flavors 5 times. For Taste of the Wild, Pacific Stream appeared by itself 8 times (fish), High Prairie (poultry) 8 times, and Pine Forest (venison) 6 times, followed by other products. This was a very cursory glance, but you can appreciate the diversity of products and the distribution. This data also would be best compared to the sales of the particular brands and individual diets. If a company is more popular, it might appear more frequently in any list and the same would be true for a particular food.

The absence of generally less expensive kibble diets (by this I mean the cheapest diets you can find on grocery store shelves) may be a bias because of the fact that some pet parents feeding those diets may be less likely to see a veterinary cardiologist for screening of heart disease. (Note (added after publication): Please see my commentary below as this was not intended to suggest that people who feed diet X don’t care about their pets or won’t see a cardiologist but rather that I do not know what the background diets are that are fed to pets that do see a cardiologist - they could be different than the general population. This would be important to know in comparing the relative risk for any diet contributing to DCM. The diets fed in my nutrition practice are very different than those fed in the general population, as an example).

So should you avoid particular brands? Likely not, based on the information so far. If there is an association, it will likely be related to food type (processing) and ingredients more than a particular brand. Also remember the vast majority of dogs on all these foods don’t have any issue. Most companies are working with nutritionists to continuously evaluate their products especially in light of the present concerns. As nutritionists, we have very limited information to tell them except for those related to ingredients as described below.

Are foods which have been evaluated through feeding trials the answer or foods meet meeting ‘WSAVA standards’?

This was added based on a comment you can read below (as well as my reply which contains more detailed information), but I do not believe there is evidence that feeding trials would be preventative for designing a food which avoids this issue if and when causation is determined. Feeding trials conforming to only AAFCO standards are a very low bar to clear, and foods that meet feeding trials can actually have nutrient values outside AAFCO standards. You can read more in the comments below about my take on feeding trials at this stage. WSAVA guidelines for selecting a pet food are helpful, and the majority of listed foods likely meet WSAVA recommendations. Remember the WSAVA provides very few actual recommendations except for ensuring that a food is formulated to meet AAFCO standards OR has been tested with feeding trials for the appropriate life stage of your pet. There is a list of questions to ask, without any opinion given by WSAVA as to what the answer should be. It is my opinion as a nutritionist that foods should, feeding trial or not, have been testing for a nutrient profile after they are formulated and then produced. Remember that there is no evidence that listed foods have a nutrient deficiency, which is consistent with FDA’s reported testing.

What about ingredients - any learnings from the FDA data?

The FDA approach to ingredients has not done any favors for the analysis. They include main ingredients as those before vitamins and minerals - as a result, these ingredients could be present in 1% to say 80% of the diet. A big difference nutritionally. It of course is very difficult to determine the concentration of any ingredient based on the ingredient list. They are listed in descending order as-fed (which means with water). A fresh meat will contribute fewer calories than a meal when first on an ingredient list - this is an example of how complicated this becomes. The FDA does say 90 percent were labeled grain-free and 93 percent had legumes (peas, lentils, chickpeas). Potatoes and sweet potatoes in a lesser number - 42%. But unfortunately we don’t learn anything from the recent FDA filing on the actual percentage of calories provided by these ingredients - something admittedly difficult to get from manufacturers. 

We also need to keep in mind that grain-free diets are extremely popular in the pet-owning population, especially I suspect in those that have regular veterinary care. So we should expect in any list to see a high background of grain-free diets. Certainly if an association exists, the high prevalence of legumes may be important. But the inclusion rate is even more important - there’s a big difference between 3% peas and 50% peas or pea derivatives (pea protein, pea starch). Low amounts of legumes have been fed to pets for a long time without any observed issues, and modest amounts of potatoes have also been included in diets, including kibble, for some time.

The animal proteins in the diets appear to be distributed across a range (chicken most common, followed closely by lamb, then salmon, whitefish, kangaroo, turkey, beef, pork, venison, etc.). Of course, for kangaroo, this is mostly reflective of a couple of specific diets as compared to chicken which is a wider range (but of course not many companies make a kangaroo diet nor is kangaroo sold as commonly as chicken).

Take-home messages: if you’re avoiding foods based on the list, the ingredients appearing most frequently are legumes. Here again, the amount of legumes isn’t addressed which is a big deficiency in our current knowledge of these diets when it comes to ingredients. It would be difficult to believe that 5% or less would be a problem, but in a larger amount, that’s a relatively recent phenomenon in pet food production driven by the push for grain-free diets.

What about detailed nutritional information?

Detailed information about the nutritional profiles of the diets has not yet been released from FDA testing. The guaranteed analyses are available for many of the diets, but keep in mind some have changed in the past few years. It’s also worth considering that the guaranteed analysis is not a good way to compare pet foods, a subject I and other nutritionists have talked about extensively.

At the present time, we’ll have to wait on this data. Of course, if there ends up not being an association between diet and DCM, it may not be particularly relevant anyway.

Why are some dogs improving with diet change?

Individual reports within the FDA data as well as reports from veterinary cardiologists suggest that pets improved following a diet change.  This is a bit of an over-simplification because of the fact that many dogs were also given supplemental taurine at very high doses (higher than in pet foods), carnitine (a nutritional supplement which may have benefits in DCM), fish oil, and in severe cases, drugs.  Even if a new diet helped, did it help because a particular dog or breed has a higher requirement for a nutrient than an ‘average’ dog? This would not be the manufacturer’s fault per se since they used the best available scientific information to formulate. The effect of diet alone is very difficult to isolate. In addition, the diets to which dogs were changed are often unknown and not compared to the previous diet.  

This is a very complicated scientific problem with the need for careful analysis, and we don’t yet have the level of analysis required to draw any conclusions or even to compare dogs with and without DCM, of similar breed and age, fed the same foods.  It’s also important to compare how often DCM occurs on a particular diet within the entire population fed that food as compared to the background incidence (how often DCM occurs in all dogs (or by breed)). For example, if 1 out of 10,000 dogs get DCM when fed any diet, and 1 out of 1,000 develop DCM on diet X, then diet X is certainly worth investigating.  The total number of cases reported needs to be compared by the FDA to the number of total dogs exposed. If diet X is 10 times more commonly fed than diet Y, the total number of DCM cases would be expected to be 10 times higher for diet X than Y (even if diet X did not contribute to DCM - more dogs are exposed in the general population). In veterinary studies, we also talk of confounding variables, which basically means other factors that could complicate the ability to establish cause and effect, and this data that the FDA has obtained is complicated by confounding variables like drugs, supplements, breed, age, duration of feeding, calorie intake, microbiome differences, genetic mutations, etc. (which is not entirely their fault since the quality of data from these reports can be difficult to standardize and the amount of data needed is enormous).  This is one of the most complex questions to answer that I’ve seen be asked in pet nutrition.

BEG (Boutique, Exotic, and Grain-free) - is this an appropriate guide?

This is a term being used by some veterinarians to describe the diets in question. I think any attempt at simplification at this point is misplaced. We just don’t have enough information. There are brands on the list that I wouldn’t consider to be boutique - and this really has no meaning anyway. Brands are often owned by a large pet food company, or their foods manufactured by a larger company, which is the case in the foods reported (including some of the biggest names in pet nutrition).  Nevertheless, because a brand is smaller or sold in independent retailers or direct to consumer, are they inherently less reputable or capable? I think not, and some positive innovation in pet food is driven by smaller companies (some of which the large companies purchase or invest in when they recognize this). In full disclosure, I’ve consulted with companies of all sizes as a nutritionist. 

What about exotic - the ingredients aren’t particularly exotic looking at the list of proteins and the individual diets being fed - certainly kangaroo diets may appear more frequently than we might expect since they are not as commonly sold as others but this needs to be examined with real data (rather than my impression). Is kangaroo itself likely to be a cause if there was an association between DCM and food? Doubtful if used appropriately and analyzed for nutritional content; if instead high ash meats (or any animal) were being used, it’s possible the protein and amino acids were not as digestible as they seem on paper. Remember that many meats and meals used in many pet foods contain cuts or trimmings of meat as well as bone after processing and can vary significantly from supplier to supplier and even from batch to batch. It’s also possible kangaroo being expensive was mixed with more legumes - again, we don’t have the data. In any respect, I encourage clients to reserve exotic proteins for food trials (testing for food allergies when necessary). But looking at the data, there are certainly a number of poultry, lamb, and fish diets - far more than exotic proteins - so it doesn’t seem if there was a definite link that it would be related specifically to the protein source (unless that protein source were not balanced with other proteins or that supplemental amino acids were not added to account for deficiencies in a final formula). Remember, however, that the FDA has said so far the testing of SCAAs and taurine appears similar in the diets tested. 

Grain-free diets have been around for some time, long before it was a frequent appearance on the label. Remember the duck and potato diets for allergy testing - these have been fed for decades. There have been significant changes in how grain-free diets are formulated including the use of legumes and legume protein in higher amounts than done historically. This could be another area where the values look good in testing, but where there isn’t optimal absorption of nutrients (or possible interactions between nutrients which were unpredictable). Admittedly, there is no evidence that grain-free foods are superior to grain-containing foods when nutritional composition is similar, but we don’t yet have enough information to say all grain-free diets are harmful (and I’m absolutely positive this won’t be the case).

Nutrition isn’t simple, and the best diet for any pet is usually one that is individualized. Applying any cute label to a complicated and unproven problem does a disservice to the attempt to characterize the problem fully and give pet parents facts, not slogans.

How am I advising pet parents?

The first is to approach the situation as calmly as possible. The vast majority of pets are fed many of these diets without any reported DCM (whether DCM is related to food or not in the end) - it’s heartbreaking when any pet is sick and certainly every precaution should be taken as information becomes available. It’s understandable that trust in pet food has been eroded because of contamination, recalls, and controversies. Talking to your veterinarian about your pet, which is not the same as any other pet, is helpful as again, the best diet is individualized. I underscore that we haven’t yet proven a link between diet and certainly not what part of the diet or diet-pet interaction is to blame. These tips may prove helpful, however:

  1.  Consider feeding a higher protein diet. Dogs have requirements for essential amino acids (protein) and fatty acids (fat) but not for carbohydrates (although carb-containing ingredients, including peas and potatoes, provide energy along with a host of phytonutrients and other benefits in moderation). A diet with more than 75 grams of protein per 1000 calories is a good place to start, especially if your pet is overweight, doesn’t eat a lot of food, has a known heart condition, or is active to give pertinent examples. This is determined by calling the company or estimating from a guaranteed analysis. Feeding more protein generally provides more SCAAs, those taurine precursors I mentioned earlier.

  2. Consider a diet with additive taurine. We again don’t yet know that taurine is a preventative or treatment factor in atypical DCM cases, but it has a high margin of safety. Diets with supplemental methionine can also be helpful and represent an alternate option (since that’s a taurine precursor in dogs). You can always ask a company how they determined if additional taurine or methionine was or wasn’t required - but you may not get an answer to such a technical question.

  3. Avoid diets at the current time which appear to rely heavily on legumes to meet the protein content of the diet. This is difficult to evaluate on the label. If a fresh meat is first on the ingredient list, followed by a legume or legume protein, it’s likely the legume that provides more contribution to the diet since it’s dry whereas the meat is mostly water. Similarly, if there’s a number of legumes listed and only one meat, that could also be a sign. Or if a legume is the first or second ingredient. Legumes can afford some nutritional benefits, but their history as a significant protein source is less well known. It may end up being perfectly safe, but the reason for higher inclusions (vs. meat) is generally for sustainability, processing, or cost.  There’s no reason to avoid legumes or potatoes entirely, and I’ve formulated diets of all types with both ingredients but at low inclusion rates, in the interest of full disclosure.

  4. Consider varying the diet. I’m not a proponent of feeding the same diet for the life of any dog or cat. Nutritional variety helps to overcome any particular issues with a certain formulation. Also consider different types of diets - if you’re feeding kibble, other options can be explored in addition or alone (canned foods, pasteurized foods, fresh foods, balanced home-prepared diets, etc.). 

  5. Talk to pet food companies about their testing and formulation process. Do they work with nutritionists to formulate? Do they test the final product to ensure it meets the requirements? Both are preferable.

  6. If you have a Golden Retriever on any diet, screening is an option both in terms of an echocardiogram and taurine level until we know more.  There certainly are some Golden retrievers that may have DCM from taurine deficiency, and this may be due to genes and not diet alone.

  7. Remember that vets and other industry experts (including those at companies) aren’t trying to be evasive when not giving answers about the potential DCM association to diet. Simply put, no one has conclusive answers and there are a number of people working to sort this out but it will unfortunately take time.

Comments on this blog below:

I’m an admittedly reluctant blogger, but felt it important to express my thinking on this issue for my clients. I will try to respond to comments as I’m able, and remember that the information above is my opinion and my opinion only based on the published data accessible to everyone (I know there is an unknown amount of unpublished data circulated in parts throughout the internet). I hope, like all pet parents, that definitive answers are coming. I believe the tips above are sound advice generally, and I admit that I do not have the answers (but also think no one yet has those). If you draw any conclusion, it’s that we need to be talking about diets, not brands, nutrients not impressions, and specifics rather than generalizations. It’s always easier to make a sweeping generalization, but in nutrition, that’s when we’re often wrong.

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  1. Lynda CarlsonAugust 29, 2022

    I am a certified pet food nutrition specialist. My concern working in a pet retail establishment was the amount of misinformation our customers received from their veterinarians concerning this matter.
    Most provided their clients with unclear or misleading information and sent them back to retail stores with no idea how to proceed other than to add lots of grains back into their pets diets. Handing clients a warning letter from the FDA gave them little to go on and left us unraveling the small amount of information they were given.

  2. Sophie PhillipsJuly 24, 2019

    Thank you for this very good in depth and unbiased brake down.
    I own a small pet boutique, it has been a bit of a challenge navigating this as half of the top brands named by the FDA can be found on my shelves.
    What a terrible thing it is to lose your pet, especially to something potentially caused by the food they are eating.
    While everyone is focusing on pointing fingers and screaming at each other, a very important point is missed. What can we do to improve our pets’ health altogether? It is unfair to tell consumers to switch back to foods that are known to have poor quality ingredients, nutritional values etc to supposedly save their dogs from dying of DCM.
    Why do I still have customers flabbergasted by me telling them their dogs can eat raw, yes blueberries are good for them, switch your brands and proteins, add fresh foods, no kibble doesn’t clean their teeth etc etc etc. Many are still told by their vets that their dogs should not, never ever ever eat anything else than that bag of kibble and to never ever offer something else.
    I very much appreciate your comment about rotation, sadly most vets do not advise this and dogs end up eating that same bag of fortified cereal day in day out. There is my question, “could diet related DCM, cancer, diabetes, kidney failure, allergies etc etc” be alleviated in the majority of the cases if we would just start looking at our pets nutrition differently?

  3. LPJuly 22, 2019

    This was extremely helpful as well as reassuring. Thank you!

  4. Robert BergerJuly 21, 2019

    This is a long response (apologies in advance).

    I see statements regarding the low incidence rate of the DCM case reports cited online (e.g. there are 87,000,000 dogs in the US and only 515 cases or only 67 cases for Acana for example). I don’t feel that interpretation of rates are well understood by the general public. Let’s look at that a bit more closely at this buy running through an example. If we look at the case of Acana the brand with the most cases associated with it, how many of those 87,000,000 dogs were fed Acana? Let’s do a bit of math using some reasonable assumptions to illustrate my point. Even if my assumptions are off by 100% it will still illustrate my point.

    Nestle was rumored to be considering acquiring Champion Foods last year for $2 billion dollars in 2018. In 2017, Champion Foods was reported to have $170,000,000 in global sales. I think that based on the proposed acquisition value (typically a 10x sales) and the reported sales two years ago that it is fair to guess that Champion Foods global sales are on the order of $200,000,000/per year. This includes both dogs and cats, both Acana and Orijen and food and treats.

    Now on average, dogs are much larger animals than cats, so Champion must sell far more dog food than cat food. Let’s assume that it is a 70% dog to 30% cat mix in revenues between the two companion animals. So now we have $140,000,000/year in global dog food and treat sales. Now we need to divide this between Acana and Orijen brands. I believe they sell more Acana than Orijen so I will use a 60% Acana / 40% Orijen split to sales. That get’s us to $80,000,000/year in Acana dog global sales. Now some of that is provided by treats vs. food so let’s adjust that to 80% of the revenue from food or about $70,000,000 in global sales from all Acana dog foods vs. treats. We now need to assign what US sales are as a percentage of global sales. I am using 60% of global sales because it is a significant market. This gets us to about $40,000,000 in US Acana dog food sales.

    Now how do we translate $40,000,000 in US Acana dog food sales into a number of dogs potentially exposed? The Whole Dog Journal estimates the average daily cost to feed a dog with Acana is 2.83 Canadian dollars or $2.17/day in USD. That is about $65/month or $780/year per average retail sales per dog. Dog Food retailers are taking a portion of this and the wholesale cost (Champion Foods piece) is smaller. I am assuming that dealer cost is 60% of retail sales. I am assuming Acana sales represent $470 USD a year/per dog. Being generous, let’s round up from 85,106 dogs and say there are about 100,000 dogs in the US that are fed Acana dog food each year.

    There were 67 Acana cases reported in the June 28, 2019 case reports by FDA. If we assume about 100,000 dogs were fed Acana dog food, the observed rate is 0.067% (or 1 in 1,493). Now if we want to be confident that the actual rate might me, we would place a 95% confidence interval around the observed rate. The potential rate now rises to < = 0.080%. A more realistic assessment of the potential risk based on the observed rate is closer to <= 1 in 1,250 (10-3) which is still a moderately low risk. This however is quite different from the frequently discussed extremely remote risk rate of 67 in 87,000,000 (1 in 130,000 or > 10-6).

    Even if all my business assumptions were incorrect and you double the fed dog estimate, you’re talking 200,000 dogs (which seems crazy high based on some reasonable math) not tens of millions of dogs. The same case can be made around the 515 cases when you realize what a small proportion of dogs are exposed to these more expensive dog foods than the Pedigree or Purina Dog Chows of the world.

    Reasonable people can come to different conclusions regarding the relative risk/benefit of continuing to feed a legume/tuber inclusive dog foods to their dogs until the root cause is understood (hey empirical evidence is telling them that their dogs are doing well). I also believe that there is a lot of “noise” in the case reports where dogs were not diagnosed by veterinary cardiologist, the breeds were genetically predisposed to DCM, or the dogs had other comorbidities. Such is the nature of spontaneous field reports. I posted this because an understanding rates is not well understood so I wanted to illustrate this for folks an example for you to think about and perhaps to help people understand why FDA might have felt obligated to disclose the data.

  5. DemiJuly 18, 2019

    Thank you so much for this! I am frustrated with the whole thing, and am trying my best to feed foods to a working dog, a puppy, a retired dog and an old dog. All while looking for more information- what flea meds did all the DCM dogs use? Tick? HW? Why are we looking past food ? What has changed ? How did my working dog have a fabulous taurine level ( over 400) and a great echo, when he has been on Fromm and Nutra his whole life, as was his father who lived to be 13 years 10 months.
    Thank you again!!

    1. DemiJuly 18, 2019

      Thai should have said why aren’t we looking past food !!

  6. CherylJuly 17, 2019

    I wanted to say thank you for this blog post. What you wrote, along with all your comments reflect my non-industry/vet/scientist stance on the subject; we just don't know enough information and the lot of acronymed groups/companies don't always have answers or our full best interest at heart (they try, but they also fail in so many ways). Hopefully someone will learn something soon. I did want to comment on something you wrote as a response; you wrote, "We should be talking about individual diets rather than brands at this point...", for me, this is what I wish we could see more of from the FDA and even the DCM group. You can group Fromm together, but if we really think grain-free is the issue, at minimum, break them down into two groups; grain free vs grain inclusive. I would love to see everything else broken down to formulas, but I understand without a larger sample size, the data can be meaningless. I hope there will never be a larger "sample size". What I'd love to see in the near future is way more transparency as a first step, stronger regulations would be a good step too, but I know that takes time. I just know I'm tired of our pets paying the price. Again, thank you and great job on all the responses.

  7. Darleen NewlinJuly 16, 2019

    Dr. I would like to know exactly what you mean when saying a rotating diet. Do you mean rotating between brands of food or rotating protein sources?

  8. Caitlin HollyJuly 12, 2019· 1 like

    Hi Dr. Shmalberg,

    As a veterinary student highly interested in this topic as it develops, I wanted to start by thanking you for not only sharing your thoughts on this topic, but also carefully and thoughtfully responding to all the comments. I can imagine it’s been a daunting task.

    If you find more time to continue answering questions, I two of my own.

    I’ve been under the impression that while the current complaints to the FDA represent a very small portion of pet owners, the nature of DCM makes it difficult to truly say that many dogs are not developing it,as they could be going unnoticed. From an epidemiological perspective, it seems like DCM would be difficult to track in terms of incidence within a population, due to a number of factors. First and foremost, it’s a disease that can progress silently, with the first symptom being sudden death in an otherwise presumed healthy dog. While necropsy is an option and would reveal DCM, many owners are unaware of it or unwilling to pursue it. For some, necropsy can be cost prohibitive, and I know in the case of many state labs, submitting your pet for necropsy means forfeiting their remains. In an older dog with known health conditions, if death were to occur from undiagnosed DCM, necropsy would be unlikely regardless. At least in my own experience working at a veterinary ER, the few necropsies that do get sent off are young or healthy dogs (and even then, its the minority of recently deceased young healthy dogs, for the reasons given above), not older ones with known health conditions. In animals that have not passed away, it still seems like DCM would be prone to underdiagnosis, as the common symptoms are non-specific, and a full heart work-up with a cardiologist can be cost prohibitive. With all those factors considered, to me, assuming that most dogs fed certain types of diets are fine because they haven’t been diagnosed with DCM seems as much an unwarranted generalization, perhaps even more so, as assuming that high proportions legumes increase risk of developing nutrition-mediated DCM, because 93% of the reported complaints contained legumes. Perhaps a study screening the general population of companion canines for DCM or pre-DCM would be conducive towards determining the scope or prevalence of the issue, but I would greatly appreciate any thoughts. While you expressed that the issue is potentially underreported, your statements that “its still safe to say that DCM is very uncommon in dogs fed any specific food,” and “the vast majority of dogs on these foods don’t have any issue” suggested to me that you don’t think the issue is potentially underdiagnosed. However, with x-rays (presumptive diagnosis?), serum taurine, and echocardiogram not being routine services, I would be inclined to think its presumptive to suggest most dogs are fine. To actually pose this as a question, why do you feel comfortable in saying that DCM is very uncommon, despite the obstacles I discussed in determining the incidence? I don’t mean for this question to sound as though you aren’t warranted in that statement, as I’m more so looking for input as to whether my own line of thinking may have a flaw in it.

    The other question I had was concerning the WSAVA guidelines. I was under the impression that when people say a food “meets WSAVA recommendations” they’re referring to the list of questions provided by the WSAVA for evaluating pet foods. You’re absolutely correct that thy don’t suggest what the answers to the questions should be, but I (and many others, it seems) have been assuming that there are varying degrees to the answers and some are better than others. For example, the first question asks if the company employs a full time qualified nutritionist. My assumption has been that its best for a company to employ several full-time, qualified nutritionists, followed by employing at least one full-time, followed by employing one or several part-time, followed by having one to consult with, followed by not having a qualified nutritionist involved at all.

    For the question about who formulates the food and what are their credentials, a company / brand whose diets are formaulted by someone with experience and formal education is better than a company / brand whose diets are formulated by a pet food hobbiest with no previous experience or formal education in nutrition.

    When people talk about brands that “meet WSAVA recommendations” I’ve been under the impression that they’re referring to companies that have the most ideal standard for each question, ie: 1. Employs a team of full-time nutritionists, 2. Has their food formulated by a team of individuals with experience and education, 3. Tests most or all of their diets through feeding trials rather than formulation alone, 4. Has foods produced and manufactured in capable facility which the company is transparent with regards to, 5. Has specific quality control measures that are transparently shared with the public upon request and ensure consistency to the product, 6. & 7. Are able and willing to provide the requested information and 8. Conduct product research AND publish that research in a peer-reviewed journal.

    Do you disagree that the recommendations can meaningfully be interpreted in that way, or do you just feel that it’s unfair / misguided to attribute such assumptions to WSAVA, since they did not clarify anything about which answers are better than others? I’m just curious on your thoughts on the matter, because your post here is the first I’ve seen to make that kind of commentary on the recommendations /guidelines and I’m trying to reassess my own position / opinion regarding them.

    If you get the chance to respond to these two inquiries, thanks in advance.

    I also just wanted to add that I really admire your commitment to approaching this developing issue rationally and with as few assumptions as possible. The impartiality you’ve expressed in your comments is something I strive towards, and I strongly appreciate that you’re approaching concerns as objectively as possible.

    I do think that there may be some underlying friction in the veterinary community against many of the brands that were listed in the most recent FDA report due to a history of marketing around common myths (by-products are dirty, corn is a cheap and useless filler, grains are bad for dogs, preservatives are dangerous, etc) and (perhaps unintentionally) having the perception of degrading / eroding public trust in veterinarians as sources of knowledge regarding nutrition. That friction and those perceptions may have created an unconscious bias that has people more inclined to condemn these brands preemptively. At the same time, I understand the frustration in marketing fads often being put before research. Even still, the statements by some of the implicated brands has seemed more like it is underplaying the potential risk (we don’t know, therefore you shouldn’t be concerned yet) to maintain sales rather than recognizing the potential risk and volunteering to aid in research efforts (we don’t know, but we understand the concern, which is why we’re ... partenering with cardiologists to provide discount DCM screenings to loyal customers / donating grant money to help with funding research into the issue / proactively informing owners of the signs of DCM and encouraging a cardiology workup where warranted / <some other meaningful effort here> ).

    While I wholeheartedly see your point that research may not have prevented this issue, I think the urging of many veterinarians for owners to switch to diets perceived as more strongly backed by research is more about risk mitigation than it is about claiming we absolutely know the cause of the disease in question. The unknown is what makes it scarier— if we don’t know why certain diets are disproportionately implicated, and there’s even a chance that those diets are the primary risk factor, why take that potential risk instead of just making a “better safe than sorry” decision that likely won’t have ill effects? That’s the position I understand many individuals to be taking right now, and it isn’t out of a lack of respect for scientific inquiry, so much as it is out of a desire to minimize risk until scientific inquiry can catch up to trends and yield meaningful answers.

    Thank you again for your time,

    Caitlin

    1. Justin ShmalbergJuly 16, 2019· 1 like

      Hi Caitlin,

      Congratulations on joining the profession. These are great and very detailed comments. So detailed that I'll probably miss some important points here, so feel free to keep me honest!

      In terms of the underreporting, absolutely, the true number of cases of atypical DCM are inevitably going to be greater than what is filed with the FDA. Some of my cardiologist colleagues are certainly telling me that they have pet parents that don't want to report to the FDA for a number of reasons. I also recently learned that there has been some attempt to anecdotally quantify the number of cases being seen across cardiology groups, which would be very helpful. I do believe sudden death would be a possibility in some cases, but I don't think it would be predominant. More commonly, there would be some clinical signs from mild (coughing) to more significant (exercise intolerance, signs of heart failure, etc.). If only 20% of cases are reported as a hypothetical, the statement that the vast majority of animals fed these diets don't get DCM would still be accurate in my mind. That is not to undervalue the impact of each dog affected - if it's your dog with DCM, you certainly don't care what the reporting statistics are. Now that this issue has been publicized, I think that pet parents would also be very likely to ascribe DCM to diet even when that's not the case - perfectly understandable because it's easier to have a simple cause and effect relationship. However, in Goldens we are likely to see genetics play a role, perhaps diet as a contributing factor, and maybe even other unknown concurrent conditions. It will likely prove overly simplistic to say that diet alone is the cause. Especially given that some Goldens on these diets don't develop DCM and are on them for years, and others do. How do we explain diet there? Calorie intake, individual / familial genetics, other factors (as I've discussed in my comments above and below)? It's also important to consider that while there is a somewhat limited brand list here, the diet list is much greater in my review of the individual cases reported to the FDA. How is it that nutritionally diverse diets would have similar impacts? We need better data on the amounts of legumes, for example, to evaluate that common thread which is really all I can see in the data (but here again we have grain-containing diets on the list). But to return to your original question about the incidence, I do believe that DCM will still be relatively uncommon but I also have no reason to disbelieve my cardiologist colleagues that they are seeing more DCM. Unfortunately, I haven't yet heard any rough quantification yet - is it twice as common, 10 times, 20 times, etc. Very different scenarios in those different amounts. If it's twice as common, this might be explained by increased awareness and screening for DCM. If 10 times, then that's a more concerning increase for sure. Some cardiologists have told me they haven't really detected this at all, while others have said that they are seeing it quite regularly in their practices. My hope is that anecdotally this can start to be quantified, and then over the long term, that numbers of cases before and after the suggestion of a dietary link compared. I do know that cardiologists are working on evaluating normal dogs on certain types of diets to assess any differential cardiac function. I applaud them for working on this, and I understand that data of this magnitude take a long time to generate.

      The WSAVA guidelines were in my mind very basic recommendations before this happened. Yes, they pose a series of questions, but unfortunately they don't provide evaluation criteria for each of those questions. The basic recommendations they do provide are met by many companies on this list. What appears to have happened, is that some have inferred their own meaning to what the responses should be. I'm not saying those inferences are wrong, but I don't think we should coapt these guidelines to the suggestion that you should only feed foods from the largest companies. This appears to be modifying the intent of the document, which was undoubtedly one produced with the consent of multiple experts, to advance a particular belief. The most prominent belief I have heard is that companies that don't have multiple nutritionists, or peer-reviewed research, were unqualified because they didn't meet some new WSAVA criteria that's established on the fly and as a result, the inference to be made by readers is that they of course had problems with their foods. If the WSAVA wants to strengthen and clarify their position, then all of the members of that committee should have the opportunity to meet and to be explicit. In the absence of that, it only creates more confusion when the actual document contains something different from what experts are saying. This disconnect is what allows pet parents to develop theories about experts' intentions. I just want everyone to be clear and not "fill in blanks" in a vague document.

      In terms of how some are filling in WSAVA recommendations, this is a good opportunity to discuss how those suggestions may be related or not to the quality of the food. For example, if we take number of veterinary nutritionists - are 2 nutritionists better than 4? You can rarely get two of us to agree on anything, so 4 might just make for complete chaos! In addition, large companies may employ veterinary nutritionists in an education capacity and they have no involvement in formulation. Does that make the food better, safer, or more researched? In addition, if a company produce kibbled diets and only has veterinary nutritionists, it's very likely that those nutritionists are not involved in formulation. Extrusion science (the science of making kibble in this case) is extremely complex and not taught in most veterinary nutrition residencies. In fact, most formulation of kibble involves the involvement of PhD nutritionists with more training in extrusion (there are some exceptions here). I can't think of any case where a 'pet food hobbyist' would be able to formulate a kibble - it takes special software, experience, and most importantly sign-off from the facility that produces it. It takes a multi-million dollar facility to make kibble on a large scale, and companies either have their own facility or use what we call a contract manufacturer who makes diets for a number of different companies. For brands on the FDA list, some owned their own facility and others used contract manufacturers. So it would be hard to suggest that owning a facility outright in this case would be preventative. Moreover, contract manufacturers have an obligation to ensure the safety of the product for their own liability and also because what one company does can influence the products potentially of others. This is especially true after the melamine recalls. They are extremely cautious to take on new ingredients, unverified ingredients, etc. Moreover, they will often have their own team to evaluate products to make sure at a minimum they are likely to extrude appropriately. As we are mostly talking about kibble here, readers should be aware that there are a very limited number of places in this country where kibble is produced - there aren't backyard kibble manufacturers. So, with this reality, I'm not sure the WSAVA question about who produces the foods is going to yield an answer that convincingly says whether or not they should feed a diet. In addition, kibble manufacturers all have some hazard assessment and food safety plan in place, so I don't know that we can evaluate this in detail. I certainly believe that testing on foods post-production is absolutely necessary, but I haven't seen any evidence yet that the companies on the list do it less than the companies not on the list. I've commented extensively on feeding trials elsewhere, but a standard AAFCO feeding trial in my mind has very little value except for detection of catastrophic deficiencies (which have not been identified by the FDA in this case). If companies are doing a more robust feeding trial, I of course encourage them to be transparent and set the example for others to follow publicly. This became super long so for anyone still reading, my apologies! Long story short, if WSAVA wants to be explicit in the superiority of certain answers, my advice is to reconvene, be clear, and explain why that's the consensus position. I hope in the interim we can avoid saying foods meet WSAVA guidelines using an ambiguous interpretation (one in which I also cannot be certain all members of the WSAVA committee agree with).

      In terms of marketing, we should have the awareness that all pet food companies heavily market their products. And that it's a competitive landscape - some companies may chose to differentiate on breed specificity, others on grain-free, and others on botanical inclusions to name a few examples. And in most cases, companies are producing foods they truly and fundamentally believe are superior to competitors - if they didn't have that belief, they probably wouldn't be very successful in promoting their product. There have absolutely been marketing characterizations on every issue that were not completely accurate - grain-free being one of them. However, large companies responded to grain-free trends by launching their own products that met this definition. Similarly, once market share of artificially preserved diets began falling, companies responded by producing natural diets. If companies are truly only about science or are 100% confident in formulations, why the change? Why not take a firm position? Because the reality is that there's often arguments for and against different diet types. Certainly consumers are driving the diets that get produced based on the information from a variety of sources (blogs, friends, intuition, research, marketing, etc.). But why are consumers so concerned? I would argue it's because of the lack of transparency in the industry. And the lack of ability for pet parents to fundamentally understand where ingredients are sourced, how they are produced, what the actual testing is, etc. I'm not sure large companies are always better at providing this information than small companies. What I truly hope comes out of this is transparency (in addition to definitive answers about DCM of course!). And not because I know anyone here is wrong or that diet alone causes DCM, but because that's an immediate step that can be taken by companies. Which is why I am so heavily encouraging my colleagues who are understandably engaging in risk mitigation with certain recommendations to substantiate their level of confidence. If they know something about the diets they are recommending, let's be specific. My concern in the current narrative, however, is that pet parents will see groups of veterinarians and experts saying only feed brand X, Y, Z and another group saying feed brand A, B, C without substantiating that entirely. I'm all for research, testing, safety checks in the greatest fashion possible - but let's put those specifics on the table for evaluation and clarity. If we find in the end that diet plays only an accessory role in a perfect storm of factors in atypical DCM or that no one in industry or academics knew that these diets would cause an issue based on currently-available information, I would want to know that recommendations were substantiated and preventative to the situation at hand. I don't yet have the confidence that feeding diets from a certain brand is protective based on the available data. It may well be the case, but if it's not in the end, I worry we as professionals could contribute to the current divisiveness around brands and feeding strategies. It may well be that those recommendations are well-founded, but to say at this time it's a definitive fix to the atypical DCM being recognized is premature in my mind. If we say feed brands X, Y, Z you won't have an issue because they do research, I would hope there's some proof that research could have prevented this (or did prevent it at other companies). An alternate risk mitigation strategy might be to not feed kibble? Or feed a home-cooked diet that's balanced? Or even canned food? There are plenty of possibilities which can be presented if one is trying to mitigate risk in the face of uncertainty. I for one struggle to be definitive with any specific recommendation at this time (apart from those above), but I understand I do not have the clinical experience with the cases which others may have. I also am aware that I have my own internal professional biases that might temper my recommendations. I try to provide pet parents with the reasons for my thinking, my clinical experience on a topic, and my biases so that they can make their own informed decision. I'm sure you are discovering that in your own veterinary training, and also seeing firsthand why the opinions of veterinarians may differ due to these factors. This is especially true in emerging clinical issues when full data are not available.

      Thanks again for all of your comments. - Justin

  9. Jonnie GuerrisiJuly 11, 2019

    As a member of Dr. Stern's group, I asked many questions, respectfully, when I first joined. I was never blocked or treated rudely. Do people get blocked? Of course. I'm sure if you were the person that invested your time in the research and found a common denominator in that research, you would ask that people commenting providing different "opinions" and "beliefs" provide the research to verify them. Verification that does not involve preconceived ideas or that are the result of marketing spin. I have seen people asked to read the "units" before commenting as with 80,000 plus members, the same question gets asked repeatedly, many times a day. Considering Veterinarians, Veterniary Nutritionists, etc. are volunteering their time to answer the hundreds of questions a day, is it too much to ask that someone at least have a rudimentary understanding of the issue or read the answers that were repeatedly given to the same question? As a non-canine professional, I would like to see more veterinarians become up-to-date on dietary DCM and the symptoms. The veterinarian that did my dog's echo was not aware grain inclusive foods were also causing dietary DCM. Another veterinarian I know is still recommending Acana grain free and was unaware of any research as of a month ago. My friend's five year old Bichon was fed Canidae Bison grain free for four years. He suddenly developed a cough and upon examination was found to have developed a Grade III heart murmur also. His veterinarian was not up on the research but did recommend a food change to Hills Science Diet (due to allergies). He was not willing to order an echocardiogram at the time, but said he would if there were no improvement in six months. Six months are up and the Grade III heart murmur is now a Grade II. The cough is gone. The vet will keep following and may possibly recommend an echo at a later date. That is a case that will remain unverified as no testing was done. It is interesting though that there has been improvement with diet change alone. You say not all diets by implicated companies should be avoided. My question to you as a veterinary nutritionist is, if some of their diets are improperly formulated, do you have a suggestion as to how to feel confident which ones are safe? I've said this many times, on many pages, I've fed healthy, active, large breed (different breed) dogs for 50+ years either Purina, Science Diet or Eukanuba. Hunting dogs, agility dogs, mountain hiking dogs, and never had one diagnosed with DCM (dietary or otherwise). Before all of the current fad diets hit the market, I never even heard of a dog developing dietary DCM. In closing, you mentioned Science Diet having too much Vitamin D. Mistakes happen and regardless of what safeguards are taken, they aways will. A mistake is accidentally adding too much Vitamin D, whether human error or machine, or too trusting of another party making the premix. I'm sure you are aware, SD paid to have those dogs tested and retested until their D levels returned to normal. I can't even qualilfy melamine as a mistake. How do you test for something that isn't supposed to be in dog food? Do you run hundreds of tests for unknown substances? What can't be qualified as a mistake is companies formulating without qualified canine professionals and doing research. Or adding novel ingredients without the knowledge to formulate them. That is not a mistake, that is negligence. These companies opted not to invest money where it is most needed (resarch) and instead invest it in what provides the biggest monetary gain (marketing). If they were truly concerned about our dogs, companies implicated would do a study on a certain number of dogs being fed their diets and pay for echocardiograms so we could know the true extent of dietary DCM. Considering their lack of interest in investing in research, I don't see that happening.

  10. Colton StricklinJuly 10, 2019· 3 likes

    I can verify Dr. Wendy Jones' description of Dr. Stern's belligerent and extremely rude response by Stern on the DCM Facebook Page in response to Dr. Shmalberg's blog, It appears that Dr. Stern shows two personalities, that of thumping his chest and posting rude and aggressive communications for the benefit of the audience on the DCM Facebook Page and then appearing here to be a thoughtful, objective, mild-mannered "scholar" whose only mission is to find a resolution to the DCM problem. The despicable, underhanded attempts to discredit Dr. Shmalberg on the DCM Facebook website has already begun. I suspect that what's got them totally in a tizzy is the fact that Dr. Shmalberg is an academic and scholar with impeccable credentials and qualifications which makes it difficult for them to dismiss or otherwise impugn his reputation and knowledge in a multitude of veterinary disciplines. As Dr. Jones states, its truly disheartening to see anyone in any profession ridiculing or impugning the reputation of a colleague or peer, regardless of the profession. But to do it in an underhanded and cowardly manner in which the other party is unaware of such attacks and therefore, can't respond, is beyond the pale! Dr. Shmalberg, keep up your excellent work. Rest assured that many people have your back!

    1. Justin ShmalbergJuly 10, 2019· 2 likes

      Hi Colton,
      I appreciate your support. It may, however, be difficult for readers to judge this on its merits because they won't have access to Dr. Stern's post, if that post is materially different to what he included here. And he similarly may no longer be monitoring this blog, so let's focus if we can on the broader goal of advancing the DCM conversation. I can assure you and others, it would be almost impossible to upset me no matter what was posted or by whom (I'm sure worse may have been said before and perhaps even with its merits!).

      I would also caution you on saying my credentials and qualifications are impeccable! Certainly, I may be wrong on this and many other topics although my position here was really to say I think definitive conclusions cannot be drawn with what's publicly available. I have tried to use the data to explain my thought process, not because it's unquestionably correct but rather because it's important pet parents have access to as much information and thinking of those of us dedicating ourselves to nutrition or other areas of study. I ultimately want what's best for pets. Certainly it would have been easier to not post this, but is that what's fair to pet parents? I hope we all work together to get to the bottom of this.

      Thanks again - Justin

  11. Wendy Jones, DVMJuly 10, 2019· 4 likes

    As Dr. Stern pointed out, this is a new problem that has come about relatively quickly. Yet I’m not seeing anyone focusing on what seems to me (no advanced degrees past a DVM, so I may be looking at this too simplistically) to be the most obvious question. What has changed in the ingredients and/or the production of the most implicated foods between 2010 and 2017? Is it simply that I don’t have access to ongoing research?
    On another note, I want to point out an example of something I’m seeing more and more frequently from a population of veterinarians. And that is a total lack of professional behavior and respect towards other veterinarians on veterinary-related forums. Several days before Dr. Stern posted his response of this page, he posted an incredibly rude and snarky response to Dr. Shmalberg on the large (and heavily biased) DCM Facebook page. Dr. Shmalberg is not a member of this page, and could not defend himself, though the biased members thoroughly enjoyed Dr. Stern’s ridicule of a very esteemed professional colleague. Dr. Stern’s reply on this page is similar, though lacks most of his outrageously disrespectful bravado. It’s bad enough when I see online bullying daily by veterinarians in private practice, but it’s absolutely shocking to see it done by a Boarded veterinary school faculty member towards a well-respected colleague behind his back. Fortunately, Dr. Shmalberg has treated Dr. Stern with professionalism and respect, restoring some hope in my mind that Dr. Stern’s behavior is an outlier, and not an example of the majority of current vet school academia. Given that the epidemic of veterinary suicide is continuing to rise (sadly, we lost 2 local veterinarians in the last 2 months to suicide), our veterinarians in Academia and other influential positions need to be setting an example of respect and compassion for other veterinarians, even when you strongly disagree with them.

    1. Justin ShmalbergJuly 10, 2019· 3 likes

      Hi Dr. Jones,
      No need for an advanced degree or certifications - it's a great question you've posed. Over the last decade, I would say the grain-free diet market share increased of course, but grain-free diets in some form were on the market for decades. Certainly, it's also my impression that higher legume amounts (as a percent of formula) appeared in foods when there was pet parent concern about potatoes in grain-free diets in the last decade as well as concerns about sustainability of ingredients broadly. There were not any significant changes in AAFCO standards and I don't believe the number of foods being tested by feeding trials or not materially changed. Many brands on the list were established before this period, but not all. Extrusion of kibble didn't materially change, and the facilities producing kibble are similar. That's what led me to wonder legume inclusion rates, but it may just be two trends running in parallel (increased recognition of DCM and increased legumes). An article recently discussed legumes and this issue (abstract link below). I am confident that legumes at lower inclusion rates will be found safe. I also can't really quantify the legume trend or the DCM trend with current information. I believe industry is sharing information to try to determine if there were changes in supplementation rates (of vitamins and minerals or perhaps taurine), general formulation strategies, ingredient sourcing, or other processes. I'm not aware of any research here, partly because it requires access to formulas.

      It certainly sounds for multiple reasons like I need to join some facebook groups! I know Dr. Stern is a passionate voice for this topic. I appreciate his advocacy for his position and for engaging in dialogue here. He provided me with ideas on which I needed to reflect and certainly pointed out areas of my blog which could be misconstrued or which did not benefit from the clinical experience of cardiologists (which I have noted and edited above). I personally took no offense to any comments here from him or anyone else.

      I do appreciate you, Dr. Jones, for highlighting for readers the very real issue of suicide in veterinary medicine. I would not want to suggest that anything about the discourse here would be inappropriate. I do believe, however, that the public should be mindful of this issue and that the profession should continue to be supportive and compassionate of all of our members. You certainly have my support there, and it's something on which we can all agree.

      Thanks again for your comments - Justin

      https://academic.oup.com/jas/article-abstract/97/3/983/5279069

      1. Let’s get scientificJuly 10, 2019· 2 likes

        I have a question. Since Dr. Jones mentioned the simplest explanation, I have often wondered more on the complex. The FDA update (on one of its various links) lists a slew of health problems percentages in the reported cases. Stern’s study also has a list of medications some of the dogs were on, one of which was apoquel (I assume for allergies). In humans, sensitivities and allergies (think gluten allergies) can cause leaky gut. We know that leaky gut can lead to several different nutritional deficiencies. If most (or even many) have allergies could dogs be developing their own leaky gut? I have read where people with celiacs also need to avoid legumes because of the lectins in them that cause further irritate the gut. Do you think that could be a possibility?

        If Dr. Stern is still checking in, I also have a few questions for him as well. One is, when I reviewed your study it appears as if the dogs were not being fed the recommended feeding amounts. Wouldn’t that affect the nutrient intake levels of the dog, possibly causing deficiency?

        Second, as far as feeding other “Beneful” and other “cheaper” brands and not seeing any cases on those foods. Could it be possible the people feeding these foods aren’t making reports because they may not be able to afford to pay for the expensive diagnostic testing needed to confirm the diagnosis? I spoke with my vet about this issue and none of the dogs he’s treated in his practice for thirty years have ever had echos done. The reason he gave is most people can’t afford it. And also, because most vets now seem to immediately attribute it to everything but the food they are eating (on these brands) and not attempting to do the same regiment as GF including food change to a different brand and not reporting it? I have seen some chalked up to being a predisposed breed as the reason why food is not being looked at on these brands, yet food IS being looked at in predisposed breeds.

        Lastly, since you are technically a geneticist, have any genetic studies been performed to explain why Golden Retrievers seem to suffer from taurine deficiency, since it was found to be a breed predisposition as far back as the 90’s?

        Thanks in advance for any response I may receive.

        1. Justin ShmalbergJuly 15, 2019

          I agree with the general sentiment here that a nuanced explanation will be the most likely, if there is an association. This is due to the fact that so many dogs are being fed the diets in questions, even if we assume there might be underreporting. It looks as though medium to large sized dogs are more represented in the data set, which as I commented elsewhere, was a trend of atypical DCM before this association was predisposed. With respect to your leaky gut comment, that's not a term commonly used in veterinary medicine but we do have have other gastrointestinal conditions that can cause malabsorption of certain nutrients. To my knowledge, SCAAs and taurine resorption has not been widely studied in this context. Interacting medications are certainly a possibility, which is why the detailed data being collected by the FDA are so important.

          I'm not sure Dr. Stern is monitoring the posts, but reduced caloric intake could well be a predisposing factor. Some nutrients (for example the B vitamins) are likely required in amounts proportional to calorie intake, whereas others (say SCAAs) may have absolute requirements (relative to the size of the dog, that is independent of calorie intake). If we have a formula that meets current AAFCO standards, those standards assume an average or higher amount of calorie intake. As nutritionists, we often have concerns about protein requirements when we intentionally restrict caloric intake below a certain amount. I'm not sure there is enough detail in the current reports submitted to the FDA to allow for quantification of calorie intake in affected dogs.

          I do think broadly we need better data on the incidence of DCM over time. I know cardiologists are working to gather this information, but you're absolutely right that some dogs may present with heart failure to a veterinarian and not have confirmation of whether DCM was the cause or not. What diets they were feeding could be different - we really don't know. I believe some proponents of the diet-based DCM theory would say that those unreported cases might be equally likely to be on grain-free diets of the same types as to what's reported (vs. Beneful or other foods).

          Dr. Stern, I believe, does have an ongoing study looking at possible genetic differences in Goldens. These genetic differences can be difficult to identify as in many cases the exact functions of certain genes in dogs are unknown. I am aware of other private companies that also have taken an interest in possible differences in the breed. Across medicine, as genetic knowledge increases, I'm sure we will increasingly identify areas where genes affect response to nutrition.

          All very interesting thoughts - thank you!

  12. Carl SwansonJuly 10, 2019

    On my information below, my contact is carlswans@yahoo.com. Would like to know if others agree with my conclusions on Champion, Zignature, and Diamond having significantly more cases of reported DCM to the FDA, in comparison to their market share and sales in the pet food industry.

    1. Justin ShmalbergJuly 10, 2019

      Hi Carl,
      I responded to your post below, but if you get responses you don't want or if you're hit with a ton of spam, let me know and I'll delete your contact information! You're a brave man or perhaps just convinced no one is reading this blog anyway to get ahold of your email! Thanks again for your comments - Justin

  13. Carl SwansonJuly 10, 2019

    Here are some of my conclusions, as I was wondering about the identified companies, and if they were appearing in the FDA report because they were doing a better job of marketing and therefore sold a lot more of their food. My conclusion is that is not the case:
    1. Champion Pet Foods, makers of Orijen and Arcana do not even show up in the top 10 pet food companies – their market share is negligible. They do not even show up based on market share of the leading brands for dry dog food (see chart below). However, they accounted for 15 % of all FDA reported cases!
    2. Zignature Pet Food Company – is owned by Pets Global, and they do not show up in the top 10 pet food companies – their market share is negligible, however, they accounted for 12.2% of all FDA reported cases! They do not even show up based on market share of the leading brands for dry dog food (see chart below).
    3. In comparison, Diamond Pet Foods accounts for almost 25% of all FDA reported cases, however, they are ranked 5th in sales volume for the top 10 pet food companies! However, none of their foods show up in the market share of the leading brands for dry dog food chart. They make, 4Health, Apex, Canidae. Chicken Soup, Country Value, Diamond, Diamond Naturals, Kirkland, Natural Balance dry, Nature’s Domain, Premium Edge, Professional, Solid Gold, Taste of the Wild, Wellness (one variety)
    4. Combined, Champion, Zignature Pet Foods, and Diamond account for 52 % of all FDA reported cases and are either not in (Champion & Zignature) or not prominent (Diamond ranked 5th) in the top 10 pet food companies market share chart. They do not even show up based on market share of the leading brands for dry dog food (see chart below).

    Top 3 Dog Food Manufacturers:

    • Number 1 is Nestlé Purina PetCare, ALPO, Bella, Beneful, Beyond, , Purina ONE, Purina Dog Chow, Purina Pro
    • Number 2 is Mar’s Petcare – Cesar, Eukanuba, Iams, My Dog, Natura, Nutro Products, Pedigree, Royal Canin, Teasers, etc. Note: Nutro Products makes some grain-free, had 1.9% of reported cases, and with peas, lentils, potato
    • Number 3 is Big Heart - their brands include Meow Mix, Kibbles 'n Bits, Milk-Bone, 9Lives, Natural Balance, Pup-Peroni, Gravy Train, Nature’s Recipe, Canine Carry Outs, and Milo’s Kitchen.

    Wish I could include my charts of company sales and market share that the above conclusions are based on. If I am in error, I would love to know how.

    1. Justin ShmalbergJuly 10, 2019

      Hi Carl,

      I didn't independently verify all of your data, but the industry sales figures are available at the link below (requiring a sign-in, however). Certainly, there are foods on the list that appear in numbers which seem disproportionate to market share. I do wonder about individual diets, however, and how often they are fed - to my knowledge, this information is not publicly available (since companies don't release it). A small company could produce a very popular diet and a large company with greater revenue could produce one that was less popular. As I've mentioned before, at the veterinary hospital at which I work, we anecdotally see some of the diets in this list quite often, which is why I wondered what the background diets were at these practices reporting a lot of cases. I absolutely agree that the list should be used to investigate differences in these foods to other foods not on the list. What are their unique features if any? Do the SCAA concentrations differ or taurine? The FDA has certainly started this work, and I think if we can get to a place where we talk about diets and not brands or companies, we'll be far better off. Given that millions of pounds of these "negligible" market share foods are fed, and the vast majority of pets don't have DCM, what is it about the potential food-pet interaction that's different if food is playing the large role here? But it is totally fair to say that many popular brands are not on the list and to ask the question of why. We don't yet know the answer due to all the reasons I mentioned above. I hope we do figure it out soon, and thank you for your insights! - Justin

      https://www.petfoodindustry.com/articles/7111-top-50-pet-food-companies-in-2018?v=preview

  14. Pam SherkJuly 9, 2019

    I guess the world be better off if we only fed our dogs Purina, Science Diet and the mighty Royal Canin that Dr. Stern feeds his Golden Retriever. Stern has 2 FB groups that not only have disdain for anyone questioning meat by products as the best source of protein but will remove and block you if you should say otherwise. In my opinion, it is the money contributed to the UC Davis School of Medicine (and of course not this specific study) that promotes misinformation. Royal Canin will not divulge where their meat by products are sourced from because they state (customer service and even supervisors) that "They Do Not Go Into That Level Of Detail". Of course, a discussion of this on Dr. Stern's 2 FB groups would be prohibited and I cannot believe that Dr. Stern is ignorant of this claim as he has purported to be.

    1. Beth Ramsay WhitcombJuly 29, 2019

      I was personally Told on the DCM FB I would be muted for questions posed. It is like a book burning mentality. Very sad.

    2. Justin ShmalbergJuly 10, 2019· 1 like

      Hi Pam,
      Thanks for your comments. I agree with you that we should be able to expect both ingredient transparency and safe foods from industry. Historically, sourcing information has not been readily available, and I'm encouraging all companies to change that in order to build trust with their consumers. I do not have personal knowledge of the facebook groups, but I would hope respectful questions would not be blocked in any forum. As I related in a previous comment, I am not sure there's a relationship between corporate donations or research funding to a particular opinion. I can tell you at my own university, I don't receive any of that money directly and who donates certainly doesn't inform my opinions! Most professionals develop opinions based on a number of factors, and I'm hoping in these comments we are learning more about those perspectives. Thanks again - Justin

  15. Joshua SternJuly 8, 2019

    Dr. Schmalberg -
    Thanks very much for clarifying your points and intentions. On many levels we agree on what would be ideal. It seems where we have different views is on what happens in the interim. Unpublished data and clinical impressions, while two very different things, are both incredibly important in emerging health threats. This qualifies as an emerging health threat in my book. Writing and publishing a follow-up clinical case series that follows dogs and updates on their current status is of relatively little benefit in the long-term and takes an enormous amount of time, particularly when the research teams are moving forward with additional prospective studies. I believe that the clinical experience of the cardiologists treating these dogs and the unpublished data on their success in coming off of cardiac meds and supplements is worth paying attention to and that requiring completed mechanistic studies is a dangerously far-reaching goal. I do believe there is a large group of manufacturers that are working hard to spin this into a non-issue. I have yet to see any of the most associated diets come out and confirm that they are concerned that they may have a problem in one or more formulation. I have seen no formulations pulled from the shelf in an effort to protect pets. I have seen an abundance of denials and release of scrambled research that cannot confirm that these diets are not responsible for DCM. The epidemiological approach to refuting this problem is full of error as occult cardiomyopathy requires echocardiography which in turn requires a specialist or very skilled practitioner to complete. I’m wondering when the genuinely concerned pet food companies are actually going to invest in collaborating with researchers that have the ability to produce meaningful data and work towards the research goals that you outline in your blog. Once again, I’m so pleased to see you thinking about this issue and hope that you get to connect with Dr. Adin to work towards meaningful outcomes. Thanks so much for your thoughtful, education blog and replies.

    Joshua Stern, DVM, PhD, DACVIM (Cardiology)

    1. Justin ShmalbergJuly 9, 2019

      Thank you again Dr. Stern for taking the time to engage. My last reply to you did ask a number of specific questions because I really wanted the benefit of your clinical impressions and unpublished data. I absolutely agree both are important, and you and I will most certainly concur that the practice of veterinary medicine is largely based on clinical experience. When pet parents are told that an issue is an emerging health threat, however, I would hope that as detailed of information that could be shared would be done as quickly as possibly (even if not in a scientific journal), especially when in this case the FDA data alone contain deficits that everyone is acknowledging. Many owners are upset they don't know what's safe to feed as a result of statements being made now and of past issues in the industry. It would be very helpful for readers to be able to understand what you and other cardiologists on the front lines are seeing. Do you believe there are thousands of unreported cases or hundreds? That 2 or 3 brands are the issue or every brand on the list? Or is it a few or more specific diets you would absolutely avoid? You ask that companies pull diets from the shelf to protect pets - looking at the FDA data I'm not sure which ones would be targets? Any diet on the list? Why are you confident that feeding trials prevent this issue (I'm not sure if that's your position)? If companies are stating categorically that there is no issue and can't be an issue, this is contrary to my opinion and certainly unjustified. If, however, they are saying the FDA data about diets is not yet definitive and that clinical impressions are not being fully explained to the degree required to identify the problem, I can understand that position. I do know that many companies are asking for what changes should be made now other than additive taurine supplementation, if any, and I'm sure they are frustrated that no one can provide specifics or identify causation. I for one would very much like to see more clinical data or impressions be discussed to facilitate my understanding and to benefit from your and others' expertise. I worry if the FDA is the only centralized repository and that it's not updated in real-time, we will continue to have more uncertainty and division. Perhaps what's initially needed is a complementary method for cases to be tracked and a survey of the impressions of cardiologists seeing the cases to derive as much information as possible in the absence of a solid epidemiological finding (and to narrow the scope of the investigation)? In the interim, I offered the advice in the blog above as my approach based on the published information. You certainly may have a different approach in the advice you give before we have a definitive answer and I appreciate the opportunity to engage and understand the rationale for your current advice to pet parents. I will most certainly consider ways to become more involved in primary research on the issue. Thanks again for your thoughts.

      1. Kim SkibbeJuly 9, 2019

        Dr Shmalberg,

        Regarding "Perhaps what's initially needed is a complementary method for cases to be tracked and a survey of the impressions of cardiologists seeing the cases to derive as much information as possible in the absence of a solid epidemiological finding" I can refer you to the facebook group Coltin has repeatedly referenced. While social media is not the ideal format for screening and reporting medical cases, the need nonetheless arose there and we responded. We have been collecting cases for nearly 1 year, by owners sending in cardiology reports along with their breed and diet history. Our graph of "brands fed to dogs DCM, confirmed or suspected to be nutritionally-mediated" is somewhat similar to the FDA graph but covers more cases. Over 100 owners have written more detailed stories of how their dog came to be diagnosed, and shared their story of improvement (in the fortunate cases discovered early) and loss (in those that were not discovered in time).

        While the page was originally intended as a discussion group on the topic, it has evolved into an information center. In addition to the case reports, we collect peer-reviewed studies and articles primarily from board-certified cardiologists and nutritionists. Hence thousands of veterinarians are members, and some cardiologists are referring their patients to our page. We of course welcome the time when this collection is replaced by more documented, published cases and the current surge in DCM is resolved. But until that time, we are trying to keep everyone updated with this important information.

        1. Justin ShmalbergJuly 10, 2019

          Hi Dr. Skibbe,

          Thank you for the additional information. This would be very interesting to share perhaps on a more widely available format, with the consent of the participants, especially in some searchable database so that researchers, the public, and maybe even the FDA could access. More universal access might also allow broader real-time understanding of the scope of the issue as I mentioned to Dr. Stern. Thanks for your efforts in collecting this data and I look forward to viewing it.

  16. Jan GrayJuly 8, 2019

    thank you so much for your unbiased informative insight on this subject. It is nice to see someone so open to answering questions and explaining things, rather than just deleting comments as so many other forums do, when you ask questions, or maybe do not agree with the content of the post. Some of the other forums out there could benefit from being more open to questions and discussion, rather than just the "my way or the highway" approach.

    1. Justin ShmalbergJuly 9, 2019· 2 likes

      Thank you Jan. Again, I don't know what happens on other forums, but my philosophy is that civil discourse and exchange of all opinions is the only way to make everyone feel comfortable in sharing their opinions and perspectives. I appreciate you taking the time to read this.

  17. Colton StricklinJuly 8, 2019· 1 like

    Dr. Shmallberg, I want to thank you for your objective, fact-based commentary on this topic. As a scientist myself in another field of study, you are correct in your take of this issue, i.e., there is just not enough information available to be drawing questionable conclusions and simplifying this subject by painting all-dog food manufacturers other than the Big 5-named brands (Purina, Hill's Royal Canin, Iams & Eukanuba) as "boutique" companies who are only interested in profits and continue to sell "dangerous" products. You'll get an eyeful if you take a good look at the Facebook page Dr. Skibbe boasts of "administering" entitled, "Taurine Deficient (Nutritional) Dilated Cardiomyopathy. This site claims that it is strictly "science-based" but tolerates no questions or challenges that they view as "rocking the boat". If someone dares to ask a question or make a statement that is viewed as "controversial", these shills will first point you to their "educational units" (presumably because you haven't educated yourself to their point of view) and if you persist, they will delete and silence you in a manner that will make any third-world despot proud! Here are some examples of the double-talk they employ to keep the lemmings fooled:
    ......They have consistently told site members that all foods containing legumes, peas, etc should be avoided at all costs but when some astute members asked why, if these ingredients were so harmful, were the Big 5 companies including them in their formulas, the answer was that the Big 5 have the "expertise" and "science" behind them to know how to properly handle and process these ingredients! Its surprising they didn't go a step further and claim that the Big 5 have a "specials strain" of peas and legumes that only they, have access to and that are totally safe in their exclusive formulas!
    ......They continuously point out that one of the criteria for selecting a dog food brand is that it has followed WSAVA recommendations that feeding trials have been conducted, (which the Big 5 companies supposedly do). What Dr. Skibbe and friends leave out is that WSAVA itself, states that feeding trials are not always reliable and in many cases, mean nothing.
    .....The Taurine Deficient (Nutritional) Dilated Cardiomyopathy Facebook Page doesn't ever disclose that WSAVA is funded by the Big 5 brands as is shown on WSAVA's website nor is it ever disclosed that the "Veterinary Nutritionists" who are promoting the WSAVA "Standards" are all receiving funding from some or all of the Big 5 Brands.
    Slight conflict of interest? Shocking!
    .....The Taurine Deficient (Nutritional) Dilated Cardiomyopathy Facebook Page has hundreds of "armchair quarterbacks" who think they are subject-matter experts on this topic, have no veterinary and/or nutritional certifications or credentials, and yet are being allowed to give out veterinary and nutritional advise on an hourly basis.

    Again, thank you for your refreshing, objective commentary and hope that continued research on this topic will begin to separate fact from fiction and speculation.

    1. Justin ShmalbergJuly 9, 2019· 2 likes

      Hi Colton,
      Thanks for your comments. I am not a member of the groups, so I don't have any direct knowledge of what you've described. My hope is that with a topic as complex as this, which is as widely publicized, that there is always the opportunity for a diversity of opinion to be shared (regardless of credentials). Some of my best learning has been sparked by my clients, for example. I'm also learning from these comments here and from many other perspectives I have been reading (even if different than my own). I would caution everyone about reading too much into the funding of certain people's salaries, initiatives, groups, or research. I can tell you for example that I have received honorariums, consulting fees, etc. from a range of companies. One of the "Big 5" funded my residency in part and I have worked to formulate a number of diets. Certainly, I have been more open to uncommon feeding strategies than some of my other colleagues based on personal experience, experience which led me to also formulate non-kibble diets. I have also recently been accused of having bias because of formulating some of the diets on the list. I have not formulated any diet on the list, and if I had, I would feel an obligation to say so. I do think it's important to understand how the opinions of any commentator may be influenced, but I also don't presume that because they have an opposing position it's because they are financially conflicted. To your ultimate point, however, I couldn't agree more - we need more data and research!

  18. Joshua SternJuly 7, 2019

    I’m pleased to see more and more specialists are now paying attention to this issue! There are a couple points here that need clarification and may represent the importance of seeing these cases in the clinic in order to fully appreciate the issue.

    Dogs ARE getting better with diet change. In some cases with diet change alone and in some with diet change and supplements. Many of these dogs who get better are then transitioned off of all heart medication and supplements - leaving them without evidence of disease and on the new diet for many months. Many companies have hidden behind this to say that it can’t be diet alone, and in some cases this is likely because they know that changing only diet would be unethical in advanced DCM (thus being able to continue their anti-science propaganda). I’m sure this blog only means to stress that this is a complex issue that requires continued study. However, to state that this isn’t a diet problem is in my opinion reckless at this point.

    This problem is relatively new and the case reports to the FDA demonstrate this well. There has been a recurring suggestion that this problem is generated by a subset of dogs with special needs. That assumption is incorrect . Many diets have been apparently meeting these “special needs” without issue. If this blog is implying that breeds like the Golden Retriever have differing taurine requirements for example, this may be true. However, they didn’t wake up that way all of a sudden in 2017; their genetics didn’t change abruptly. Are we really OK with companies saying that one of the most popular dog breeds in the world has special needs that can’t be met with a diet marketed for dogs?

    The suggestion to rotate diets to avoid this issue seems out of place. If you read the FDA update it becomes apparent that owners could rotate many brands, yet still end up with a feeding regime completely comprised of diets associated with DCM. I don’t mind the idea of rotating diets, so long as owners rotate formulas that avoid suspect ingredients and are produced by companies that meet WSAVA guidelines. Of course, feeding a single diet with these characteristics appears to be just as good for avoiding NM-DCM.

    Finally, it is poor form to suggest that the type of food a person feeds is directly tied to the veterinary care they seek for their pet. There is no research to support such a claim. This is an issue that causes heart failure and sudden death. Both of these outcomes are pretty easily noticed. At one of the busiest academic cardiology centers in the world we see a great number of dogs on diets that meet WSAVA guidelines and many that eat grocery store brands. Many people that care about their dogs and seek advanced treatment do still shop at Target for their pet food. A few years ago I had a client sell her car to pay for a pacemaker in her dog. My own chihuahua eats Beneful because he is 15.5yrs old and he likes it. In short, this statement was inappropriate and feeds into the marketing that got us into this problem to begin with. How do we change the narrative so that pet owners believe that loving and protecting their dog starts by feeding a well-researched dog food?

    Dr Schmalberg- you have an excellent opportunity to join forces with a top researcher in the clinical entity that is Nutritionally-mediated DCM at U of F! Please please work with Dr Adin there and help move this research forward for the sake of dogs and the pet food industry!

    Joshua A. Stern, DVM, PhD, DACVIM

    https://ccah.vetmed.ucdavis.edu/areas-study/genetics/nutritionally-mediated-dcm

    1. Justin ShmalbergJuly 8, 2019

      Hi Dr. Stern,

      Thanks for taking the time to post and to share your expertise.

      I would start by saying I do, in comments and in the above, carefully mention that my thoughts are based on the universally available knowledge about cases, which is to my knowledge only found in the FDA release and a few journal articles or abstracts. I absolutely appreciate that clinical impression is important, and I definitely acknowledge that as information is aggregated and made available scientifically, we may well have different scientific conclusions (some of which may match current clinical impression). In the overview publication of which you are an author in JAVMA, the following is quoted directly: "Regardless, the apparent link between BEG diets and DCM may be due to the grain-free nature of these diets (ie, use of ingredients such as lentils, chickpeas, or potatoes to replace grains), other common ingredients in BEG diets (eg, exotic meats, flaxseed, fruits, or probiotics), possible nutritional imbalances, or inadvertent inclusion of toxic dietary components. Or, the apparent association may be spurious." It sounds like your recent research has revealed that this is a definite association and not spurious. As a follow-up then, can you tell the readers how specifically that conclusion has been reached? Is it unpublished clinical data and if so can you tell me how many additional dogs this involves at the current time?

      It is extremely discouraging to be told a post which fundamentally relates that causation has not yet been scientifically established is "reckless". I most certainly did not say it wasn't an issue, only that if it is an issue, the FDA data and other published data hasn't uncovered the reason nor has it suggested definitively what to avoid. Moreover, I absolutely agree that there are some diets that can produce taurine deficiency - but this was previously known and corrected relatively easily by reformulation with taurine in the past (which seems to not be the case here). In the previously-mentioned article you co-authored, the following was said about non-taurine cases: "Notably, however, some dogs improved after a diet change from one grain-free diet to another, and this finding, along with the differences identified between dogs fed various BEG diets, suggested that DCM was not necessarily tied to the grain-free status of the diet. Taurine supplementation was prescribed for many of these dogs despite the lack of apparent deficiency, and it is unclear what role taurine may have played in their recovery." Are there enough cases now to suggest that in some diet alone is definitely sufficient and in others diet and taurine (are numbers available)? Were new diets different in taurine or just different in some other capacity? One frustration I have as a nutritionist is that no one is detailing which diets have been fed after diagnosis, and in many cases, nutritionists are then asked to make a recommendation in the absence of any information to suggest what the dietary link is or what specific diets may be used in treatment successfully.

      I would take issue with a narrative that companies are hiding behind statements or uncertainty in the data. Every company I've heard discuss this issue is desperate for causation to be proven and identified so that corrective action can be taken. When you can't tell companies what specifically they've done wrong, it certainly is difficult to induce positive change. I also am not sure there is rampant anti-science propaganda - I think to the contrary owners are concerned when sweeping generalizations are made. I hope you are not left with the impression I'm trying to foster an anti-science narrative - to the contrary, I'm trying to give folks a window into how complicated causation is to prove scientifically with so many confounding variables (not to mention scattered sources of case reporting).

      In terms of diet and genetics, my hope would be that reformulation could prevent any diet-related cases regardless of breed (but we of course won't prevent DCM entirely with diet, depending on the actual genes involved much like no one is suggesting DCM in Dobermans can be prevented by diet). But here again, we would have to know specifically what change would need to be made to know how to prevent or the feasibility. Your team related that many of the Goldens were eating less than expected, and I've always encouraged companies to formulate for a very low calorie intake assumption. Is it just adding supplemental taurine, is it therapeutic taurine (maybe 10-20x what's in foods commonly), is it taurine only when legumes are present (at a certain inclusion level)? Or is it some other factor of prevention? I don't know what happened to the numbers of Goldens with DCM before and after 2017 because the incidence has not to my knowledge been quantified for different periods - do you have this data? If these companies asked you today how to fix the problem for Golden Retrievers (or any breed), what would you say?

      In terms of rotation, you're confident that WSAVA guidelines (which are met by many companies on the list, unless again we are changing those standards) and avoiding suspect ingredients is the solution to the problem and that there are data to support this at present? Is the recommendation provided in the JAVMA article still sufficient in your mind: we should recommend the owner change the diet to one made by a "well-established manufacturer that contains standard ingredients (eg, chicken, beef, rice, corn, and wheat)"? And by well-established, I assume this means they have existed for some indeterminate period of time? If the issue were to end up being related only to legumes at a certain amount, as a hypothetical, would the current recommendation not be an over-simplification of an admittedly complex issue?

      With respect to diets and veterinary care, I suggested only that I did not know the answer to the question (as with all questions I have posed). Is there a difference in diet being fed between dogs seeing a cardiologist and the general public? I honestly don't know. Do we have data? I understand you have a clinical impression. I think it's important to know what the background of diets being fed by owners who have a dog that sees a cardiologist is so we can compare it to dogs with DCM and to the general population. Would that not be helpful? Certainly not all cases of DCM see a cardiologist (although they may not be diagnosed with DCM without an echo). Is it "poor form" to ask questions to which we don't know the answer? If you believe I was insinuating that people that feed food X don't see a cardiologist because they don't care about their pet, that seems like an oversimplification of the data analysis I was proposing and definitely not accurate to my intention.

      Finally, I do think we need to address the following comment: "loving and protecting their dog starts by feeding a well-researched dog food". Can you tell me specifically what research would have definitively prevented the current situation? This is my point - when we say feed brands X,Y,Z because they do research or otherwise give a vague statement, without knowing what specifically brands did to avoid an issue (if anything), it only makes pet parents feel divided in the sense they're being told all 'BEG diets' are bad or the manufacturers on the FDA list are careless. Remember, the most well-researched companies in the world have had their own issues of even greater scope which I raise in the comments below (eg melamine). Many veterinarians and veterinary academic clinicians took issue in the mid-2000s when the reactionary recommendation to melamine was not to ever again feed any of the foods from the largest pet food companies because melamine was thought by many to represent a failure of ingredient sourcing and adulteration prevention. It's not marketing entirely to blame for current divisions in pet food and for different feeding strategies, it's an erosion of trust by pet parents based on a number of factors. I personally believe part of that is oversimplification of nutritional advice.

      My overall point here is how do we provide concrete, evidence-based recommendations to clients that aren't sweeping generalizations that further divide and fracture pet parents, the veterinary community, and pet food manufacturers? My questions are designed about the current available to everyone data, and I look forward to the continued dissemination of more information from yourself and other leading researchers. At UF, my understanding is that we have not seen the numbers of cases being reported elsewhere, but I do look forward to any involvement or contribution I can make. I also appreciate your leadership in advancing the science here.

      Thanks so much for the comments.

      Link for article referenced above: https://avmajournals.avma.org/doi/full/10.2460/javma.253.11.1390

  19. Darleen NewlinJuly 7, 2019

    I thank you for your comments. May I ask you about nomnomnow? Would rotating between protein sources be a sufficient rotation or should another food be considered entirely. I do believe fresh sounds better and I know you formulate nomnom but what about quality control and other scientists being involved. Thank you I am very interested in nomnom for both my cats and dogs.

    1. Justin ShmalbergJuly 8, 2019

      Thanks for your comment Darleen. I'd prefer to avoid a discussion of specific brands on this blog, whether I formulate them or not. I'm sure the company would be happy to provide information on testing and formulation directly. Many foods are quite different within brands and if this is the case, I will commonly recommend that rotation. In other cases where a brand's diets are all similar nutritionally, I may encourage brand rotation for healthy pets. In clinical nutrition practice, I consider a host of factors about each dog and cat to try to customize specific recommendations (which is where veterinary nutritionists can be helpful generally). As I always say, the best diet is individualized to the needs of any specific pet. Thanks again!

  20. Kim SkibbeJuly 5, 2019

    Thanks for the reply and for editing on the "cost" issue. I'll make just a quick clarification of my view on "companies" where indeed I probably should have just said brands. It varies by company whether the same team is formulating all of their brands or if they have different divisions. I will however stick with the idea that "formulation, research, and experience matters more than ingredients". Royal Canin has a hydrolyzed soy diet for dogs with allergies; no evidence of DCM or other problems there. Kangaroo is another example: the Kangaroo diet developed by the Iams company and then transferred to Royal Canin in the acquisition has existed since the 1990s with no evidence of DCM problems. But I am told by nutritionists it is a difficult protein to work with, and it appears that perhaps Pets Global {Zignature) might have lacked either the expertise or research to formulate with it.

    WSAVA guidelines can obviously be interpreted differently by different people, but in short what we are seeing (in a group where we have collected 500 DCM case reports ourselves) is that the companies that have research centers and a full team of experts aren't having this problem, in spite of ingredients. One example here is Fromm, who had a grain-inclusive diet DCM case mentioned in Dr Stern's study. Read Fromm's own "company timeline" and it shows they abandoned research about 1990 and turned to ingredient-based marketing.

    Another one of the brands reported in the FDA graph was, to my understanding, formulated by a veterinary nutritionist. But he did not have the benefit of a full team of nutritionists, toxicologist, food scientist and a research center.

    I wouldn't buy a family vehicle because it had the right kind of metal or brake fluid, if they didn't use a full team of engineers and safety testing.

    We indeed may find an anti-nutrient or some other causative effect of legumes, but it's clear from other cases (lamb/rice diet lesson of the 1980s, homemade diets that periodically cause DCM, ultra low protein or high fiber) that there are a multitude of ways to get poor nutrition and possible DCM with it.

    Again, thanks for your comments. It takes a multitude of inputs to sort out a problem like this and I hope spreading the message helps save dog's lives and prevents more family heartache.

    1. Justin ShmalbergJuly 5, 2019

      Thanks again for your comments and for taking the time to work on this important issue. I did want to offer a few other thoughts:

      You won’t find any objections to the point that more research and testing on any product is better. However, I worry that readers might infer that the current issue could have been prevented by research and testing - we just don’t have data to support that at this time. We’ve seen issues in the past from companies that had teams and experience. Lamb-based diets which caused DCM due to taurine deficiency were released because the association was not yet recognized. It was only after they were on the market that the issue was identified by academic institutions. Similarly, the melamine recalls were not prevented by large teams because no one thought it would be an intentional contaminant by Chinese suppliers of ingredients. Melamine disproportionately affected some of the companies with the most experience in pet food. More recently, vitamin D excesses were not prevented either by a robust team, research, and experience. I’m absolutely a proponent for as much safety and formulation science as possible, but that doesn’t prevent issues when the cause of an issue is unknown and it doesn’t mean that every diet produced by company X has that level of diligence. I’m sure if anyone knew of a cause for DCM based on the formulations reported, they would suggest it now regardless of the company they worked for. It’s just not yet clear that any testing or scientists could have prevented any relationship between DCM and food based on current scientific knowledge (or to use your specific example that Fromm’s level of research effort could have prevented a case). If and when an issue is known, no doubt there will be testing and procedures put in place to prevent it from happening. Then, we will also be able to evaluate whether it could have been prevented. In the end we may find something very specific, say for example, that certain dogs, dog breeds, or lines (families) of dogs are predisposed to DCM that improves (or is prevented) by a certain nutritional profile that isn’t optimal or needed for the rest of the dog population. Diet or supplements might even play more of a role in the treatment of DCM from any cause than we previously realized (since it wasn't studied previously).

      For potential adverse events from pet food with a low incidence, it would take tens of thousands of dogs to be fed for it to manifest. Regardless of the findings of this investigation, we know the situation will fall into this category. If it’s your dog that’s affected and it was related to food, this would undoubtedly not provide any solace. And I truly do feel for any pet parent that has a dog with DCM of any cause. I only say this to illustrate that even feeding trials which contained echocardiograms would not likely detect the issue at hand - and echos during feeding trials aren’t commonplace in any company to my knowledge. There certainly are other ways we know foods can cause DCM which you mention, but these all seem more classically related to taurine, unlike many of the current reported cases.

      My fear with the current DCM conversation is that professionals and pet parents will use it to polarize around previously-held beliefs and assumptions. At present, one could simply look at the list and say this seems to be a kibble problem, so perhaps no one should ever feed kibble. Is that more or less justified at present than saying no one should ever feed grain-free diets? I hope we all, myself included, can see through any biases in the search of the truth.

      1. EmilyJuly 6, 2019

        Hi Justin - thanks so much for taking the time write all of this and to respond to comments.

        I am a veterinarian that has taken a special interest in nutrition. My interest and studies have been a result of the grain free movement. I felt like that movement spread a lot of misinformation about byproducts, grains, protein meal and most upsetting veterinarians. I would go on various food websites to defend the truth and find ways to effectively talk to people online so I had the knowledge and the confidence to do it in the exam room.

        That being said, as someone who absolutely hates grain free for the political issues, I agree this is not just a grain free problem. I would say the majority of us veterinarians trying to educate and increase awareness about this terrible issue, will tell people that this is occurring in both grain free and grain inclusive diets.

        I personally feel this isn’t a grain free issue but rather a lack of research issue. I respect that you think that research most likely wouldn’t have prevented this. I disagree with that thought mainly because there hasn’t been ANY correlation with NM-DCM and diets that have extensive research and feeding trials. We both know formulating a diet on paper doesn’t mean the diet is the same once manufactured and produced. Isn’t that where research and feeding trials come into place ?

        Regardless this is a tragic issue and I personally feel that the only way (beyond research and feeding trials of course!) to move forward and to find an answer is to rebuild the clients trust in their veterinarian. That broken trust is really poisonous in our industry and needs to be fixed. It doesn’t matter what cause research uncovers if pet parents are unwilling to trust the research and science since the company they follow and feed to their pets continues to tell them that we are the enemy and can not be trusted !

        1. Justin ShmalbergJuly 8, 2019

          Hi Emily,

          Thanks for your thoughtful post. I agree that misinformation is harmful, but I do welcome a healthy debate with different viewpoints when evaluating diets or dietary strategies. I've been on record before saying that ingredients need to be evaluated independently - what's the source, what's the digestibility, what's the nutritional profile of that ingredient, how do the ingredients interact, what's the potential for contamination, etc.

          Regarding research, I don't yet have any data to quantify the amount of research on a particular diet. Most companies don't publish research on individual diets, so do we mean nutritional testing? There are only so many laboratory tests that can be done on pet food and I don't know that the diets on the list had less testing or research than others - is there a source of this information of which I'm unaware? I also don't know that there aren't diets on the list which went through feeding trials - I haven't assessed this information and haven't seen in published. I am highly suspicious that a feeding trial would have identified any issues related to DCM - the number of animals in the trial would likely be too small and the outcome measures not cardiac-specific enough. If some brands had encountered this issue, and not released a food because it caused DCM, I am sure they would release that information to other companies to improve the industry. I'm not anti-research or anti-feeding trial by any means, but someone needs to provide actual information to support this claim. If we don't, it looks to some pet parents like an attempt to bolster some brands over others without evidence (which is what causes polarization in my mind).

          I think your point on trust is absolutely critical. I believe that trust is best repaired by being honest, and I honestly can't yet tell owners what caused this nor can I say that research or feeding trials are protective. I believe if we don't know, it's ok to say we don't know. Most pet parents want answers now, which is absolutely understandable, but I don't think we should reach for a sweeping conclusion before we're ready. Hopefully more information will be available soon!

  21. Justin ShmalbergJuly 5, 2019

    Hi Dr. Skibbe,

    Thank you for taking the time to read my comments. I would of course emphasize that these comments are mine and mine alone, and that there is a diversity of opinion. There are also, as you mention, data which are formally available (FDA) and data which are not widely available (pending cases with the FDA or cases unreported by owners, the cases of individual cardiologists or cardiology groups, and information on a variety of public interest websites / social media sites). I also would say I have no relationship with the companies mentioned by the FDA, so I also do not have any internal access to their nutritional profiles or their formulation approaches.

    With all unpublished data you reference, my hope is that it is either published or disseminated in a form in which the data are clear. For example, if cardiologists have encountered improvements that now seem to be entirely diet-dependent, it would be helpful to know what diets (not brands) were fed (and for instance, is there a specific diet recommended or did the owner decide based on a provided general criteria (WSAVA), for example?). I receive a number of messages from pet parents who weren’t given dietary recommendations and want to know what to do. In my conversations with cardiologist colleagues, there have been a diversity of dietary recommendations made - some specific, some general. My main underlying point in all of this, is that the data are not easy to evaluate based on what the FDA has provided. And data from other sources are also not consolidated or readily accessible to everyone (the hope being that the FDA is able to do this, but it's a massive undertaking).

    In terms of ‘certain small companies,’ I would not consider many of the companies with listed diets small (Champion, Diamond, Mars, Purina). Perhaps you mean brands? Nutro of course being owned by Mars, which owns Royal Canin; Merrick being owned by Purina; Blue being owned by General Mills. Is there something Royal Canin is doing that Nutro is not, Purina branded foods versus Merrick? I’m honestly not sure I have enough internal information to say? In terms of specific brands not listed, this is a fair point but I don’t have enough information to say that it’s because of the brand. Is it instead because foods in some brands perhaps contain less legumes or contain more taurine or even have lower ash meals? This would be an interesting analysis. We should be talking about individual diets rather than brands at this point, which was a huge part of what I intended to convey. If there ends up being an association, I am almost sure it will be to diets not to brands, which of course makes sense because brands often produce a range of very nutritionally different diets. As veterinarians I think we do ourselves a disservice when talking about brand X versus brand Y, especially before we have conclusive proof and especially without internal knowledge of what companies are actually doing. In the past, I believe we have lost credibility by advocating brands versus advocating for nutritional strategies. I’m for instance not an advocate for a diet reliant on legumes for substantial amounts of protein, but this would be irrespective of who produced the diet. And my opinion is not yet based on data but rather a shorter period of time in which we’ve been able to evaluate higher legume diets.

    I would caution everyone against being overly confident in feeding trials. In fact the WSAVA guidelines say the same: “While feeding trials help to test for the food’s nutritional adequacy, the use of feeding trials does not guarantee that the food provides adequate nutrition under all conditions.” Nor does the WSAVA explicitly recommend feeding trials, only that diets should carry an AAFCO statement for the appropriate life stage (either formulated to meet OR have feeding trials). The comment you reference “Change your dog’s diet to a dog food brand that meets the World Small Animal Veterinary Association (WSAVA) criteria. These brands have not just been formulated to meet AAFCO nutritional standards, but have actually been tested in feeding trials…” does not seem to be reflective of what the WSAVA has said. In addition, I am not sure that every diet within those brands have been through feedings trials, so this is why talking about the specific diet (rather than brand) is so important.

    The emphasis on feeding trials is an interesting one as pet parents might rightly ask; are feeding trials protective for any nutrition-related DCM which may exist? The minimum standard for an AAFCO feeding trial would in my mind never really be able to detect or prevent any diet-related DCM. They are an extremely low standard. If there was an issue with diets without a feeding trial, might it be that some companies “formulating to meet” test their foods after formulation for detailed nutrient profiles versus others who perhaps test for only a limited number of analytes after production? Here again, however, the information we have suggests that diets met current AAFCO standards (which I for one would love to see strengthened but that’s a different issue). To my knowledge, nutrient testing and feeding trials on any food have not found DCM or an issue which could contribute to DCM before a food was released to market. I believe the feeding trial association is a weak one until substantiated. This is not to take away from feeding trials, but rather to say we have no evidence feeding trials have or would prevent what’s reported and if saying so, it should be qualified to pet parents with actual data not impressions.

    I would also add for readers’ clarification that to my knowledge many of the listed foods meet WSAVA criteria at least as I read them. I have unfortunately seen some nutritionists and veterinarians say foods don’t meet the WSAVA guidelines when in fact that do. Unless, the WSAVA committee is proposing a change to their recommendations of which I’m unaware?

    The population from which dogs with DCM are screened is my main emphasis with my examples of brand X versus brand Y, especially after the issue was publicized. It is a fair point that some brands do not appear on the list, but again, I don’t have personal knowledge of the background diets being fed to dogs that see cardiologists (and I know many cardiologists who historically did not take a diet history before this happened). In my nutrition practice, the diets on the list were far more commonly encountered than many you mention (but there is likely a bias to nutrition practice that is different from cardiology). Is it also possible that pending cases or unreported cases are of other brands - it’s a fair point about probabilities which you raise of brands that aren’t on the list. But I still don’t know what company X is doing differently from company Y or what nutrients are different to explain why I am selecting a diet or another. We still don’t know what specifically we are avoiding until we have the cause. I agree that there are some trends which appear worth investigation - such as with kangaroo appearing more commonly in cases than I would guess (emphasis on guess) appear in a cardiology practice or in the general population. I believe here again, we will eventually need data like this to sort out what correlations exist. I don’t fault my cardiologist colleagues or any other researchers on this topic as this is very difficult data to collect and collate, and as I said, I know everyone is doing their best.

    My comment about less expensive brands was actually referring to extremely inexpensive brands found on grocery store shelves, which also do not appear on the list. I would not consider many of the brands you may be advocating to owners (Purina, Royal Canin, etc) to be less expensive and so I appreciate the opportunity to clarify. I will edit the post above to reflect that point.

    Thank you for the valid criticism of the way data about non-DCM cases was presented in light of the FDA’s progress so far. I have edited the post to reflect the number of non-DCM cases reported out of the total for which records were reviewed. I have no doubt that more reports exist which need to be investigated, and that this investigation strains the resources of the FDA. My hope is that government-research partnerships are able to help over time alleviate this burden to provide more facts. Certainly, there will be some reports which pet parents submit that do not have DCM, have typical DCM, or that have pre-DCM changes of variable magnitude. This will continue to be important to stratify the data and to make sure that the list of foods and other factors is as accurate as possible.

    I have no doubt my opinions may be different than colleagues, and that I may not have the personal experience that others have (including my cardiologist colleagues). It remains difficult, however, for the general public and myself to evaluate data which are not available or not specific. I want to emphasize more than anything that the publically-available data does not yet support some of the generalizations being made, and that generalizations are problematic in nutrition. For this reason, my own comments on legumes should be taken as opinion about my approach to pet nutrition generally rather than owing to any clear cause and effect relationship with DCM. It’s more challenging to focus on individual diets (rather than companies), nutrients rather than just ingredients, true incidence vs. impressions, but only when we get to that level of analysis do I believe we will find the answers we’re looking for. I appreciate your dedication to this issue, and for sharing your information and perspectives.

  22. Kim SkibbeJuly 5, 2019· 1 like

    Dr Schmalberg, Thank you so much for taking the time to write on this concerning issue. Pet owners are worried, and hopefully appreciate a nutritionist's viewpoint on this issue.
    As a veterinarian myself and someone who has been following this issue for over a year, I did want to ask for clarification on a few of your points. I currently administer a facebook page with nearly 90,000 members, and another page with thousands of veterinarians. We are discussing your comments in the veterinary group and wanted to give you the opportunity to reply to our questions before we post your commentary in the larger public group, particularly since one of your comments seems to stand in contrast to the researchers and cardiologists closest to this issue. Because this is such a prominent issue right now, pet owners are taking every quote very seriously.

    In regards to your comments on dogs improving with diet change: we are hearing from Dr Stern and other cardiologists that dogs are now coming off of heart medications and supplements. And of course there is the simple fact of the evidence of dietary correlation: one cannot overstate the disproportionate nature of the case reports to certain small companies. As stated in an update from cardiologist Michelle Rose "Change your dog’s diet to a dog food brand that meets the World Small Animal Veterinary Association (WSAVA) criteria. These brands have not just been formulated to meet AAFCO nutritional standards, but have actually been tested in feeding trials, and Dr. Robert George and I, AERC’s cardiologists, have not seen a single case of nutritional dilated cardiomyopathy from any of these brands. Examples include Hill’s Science Diet, Purina Pro Plan, Royal Canin, Iams, and Eukanuba." As a consultant in the pet food industry, I'm sure you are aware that these are the largest companies. While it would therefore not be surprising to see a tiny number of coincidental cases on dogs eating popular brands, there would have to be literally thousands of them to statistically compare to the cases reported on some of these smaller brands.

    This is why I particularly question "The absence of generally less expensive kibble diets may be a bias because of the fact that pet parents feeding those diets may be less likely to see a veterinary cardiologist for screening of heart disease." If we are simply stating that the reports are not a perfect representation, then I agree. It's quite possible (for example) that Rachel Ray Nutrish might be causing a higher % of DCM than is indicated by the 10 case reports. But if we are looking at dog food companies overall, the massive size of companies like Purina, Iams, and Royal Canin would make it impossible to overlook nutritional correlations on these foods I practice in a high-income area, I take diet history on all my patients, and had never heard of Zignature or many of these other small brands before I started following the DCM issue. Over 90% of my patients eat a diet that follows WSAVA guidelines. Also, you can look at the OFA website for a partial list of echocardiogram screening clinics that occur in conjunction with dog shows; this is another time where dogs eating popular diets are getting echocardiograms.

    Finally, I was surprised to see your sentence "Not all of the cases above have been confirmed to have DCM - the FDA reported that 202 dogs (35% of total reports) and 6 cats (42.8%) had both medical records available and met the DCM definition." I went back to the report to see what I had missed. The FDA phrasing is different by one significant word: they did not say the records were not available on the other dogs but rather that "whose medical records were reviewed with heart changes characteristic of DCM on cardiac ultrasound – including decreased ventricular systolic function and dilation " This would seem at first a meaningless distinction, but it just so happens that we have a support group with approximately 500 affected owners and most tell me the FDA has not yet interviewed them or requested full records The FDA is clearly unable to deal with all of the case reports on this issue. Adding to the fact that (as you already stated) many have not yet reported to the FDA at all. I fear this is a much larger problem than indicated by the 500 reported cases.

    Thank you
    Dr Kim Skibbe